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  Wrong and Deceiving

  by Madan Magar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the article 'judgement day' published by jehovah's witness', they are saying,'in 'judgement day', the people who will be resurrected and had no chance to learn about god will not be judged according to their past deed but what will they do after resurrection.

  ' and they show the scripture roman6:7 which says"who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

  " if we take out context and see it literally , it has that meaning but the scripture's contextual meaning is totally different, it doesn't talk about physical death but the death of old personality.so in this cotext, this cannot be applied.this is anacceptable to admit..

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  When you read the context carefully, it becomes evident that Romans 6:7 is really saying that the dead are free of sin's power to control their bodies. It's not talking about sinners being acquitted for their past sins. It's actually saying that the dead cannot sin - because there is no living body for sin to control - and using this as an illustration to tell christians to likewise consider themselves as being dead and therefore not to allow sin to control them.

  Watchtower is shamelessly twisting the verse completely out of context to support its false teaching about the unrighteous getting a second chance. Watchtower's definition of the unrighteous is completely made up and has absolutely no basis in scripture. In fact, scripture implicitly contradicts the notion that the unrighteous is a separate group from the wicked:

  "What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom?" - 1 Corinthians 6:9a

  "Jehovah knows how to deliver people of godly devotion out of trial, but to reserve unrighteous people for the day of judgment to be cut off," - 2 Peter 2:9
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  april 15th simplified why is the article dissfelowship a loving arrangement missing

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  thoghts

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  When the shunning arrangement is put in very simply language is sounds very cold, blunt and disturbing. It's hard to get simple euphemisms to cover over the evil of shunning.

  But I have a theory that Watchtower plans to use exclusively the simplified edition for that month in countries where the contents of Watchtower literature is under government scrutiny for things like extremism and hate speech.
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  By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.

  by FadingTruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  august 2015 awake .

  quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.

  why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.

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  I think the whole Ape evolving into humans thing is kinda correct - at least it is not wrong for the reason many are saying it is wrong.

  The statement that apes evolved into humans is as wrong as saying that birds evolved into ducks. Ducks are birds and humans are apes.
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  Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original thread here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.

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  DATA-DOG: "Am I the only one who sees the irony of the WTBTS just releasing another cartoon about being bold in school??"

  No you're not. The thought crossed my mind a few days ago and I forgot to comment on it. Then today I came to mention it and noticed that you did.

  It truly is fortuitous that that girl uploaded her video just days after the JWs' cartoon session at the K.H. about being bold at school. Who knows, maybe the timing is a sign that it's Jehovah acting to expose the JWs. lol.
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  What is Your Brainwashing IQ ? Take the Quiz

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?

  essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.

  http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.

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  I would be willing to bet that you would have a hard time getting a JW to even take this test.

  Well, I'm going to try:

  https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150527183221AALWJYz
  
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  Some common words that are applicable in practical use with the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll start the ball rolling .... .

  coercive.

  pretentious.

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  Hypocritical

  Propagandistic

  Hubristic

  Fallacious

  Orwellian

  Manipulative

  Secretive

  Bigoted
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  1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

  "understanding the illustration of the talents".

  "when the master rewards the slaves.".

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  No, the date still exists. What has changed is their claims of what happened in that year.

  It was formerly claimed that Jesus made the initial appointment of the FDS in the 1st century and appointed them over all his belongings in 1919. Now it is claimed that Jesus made his initial appointment of the FDS in 1919 and will appoint them over all his belongings when he returns in the future during the great tribulation.
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  Why BOGUS PREDICTIONS and CHANGEABLE TEACHINGS only strengthen JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today's jw knows less about the history of the watchtower religion than ever before.. there is no need to know.

  only the present moment of new light has meaning.. there are too many enemies surrounding jw's to risk learning something faith-weakening.. such as facts.

  the watchtower religion (jehovah's witnesses) has been 'getting away with it' since 1874.. setting dates built on false chronology, pyramidology, slanted quotations about world events, and misrepresenting their own authority, (channel of jehovah) is a profitable enterprise for the watchtower org.. how do we know they 'get away with it'?.

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  FusionTheism: It makes no sense to simultaneously say that the Society doesn't want the average JW to know about the problems of the past Society, and THEN at the same time to say that the Society is intentionally telling these JWs about these problems, making them aware of them

  This is a tactic used by shrewd politicians. In an attempt to take the sting out of a shocking expose that he knows will inevitably come, a shrewd politician might preempt the breaking of the news by mentioning the incident, carefully spinning it to portray himself as humble and transparent while at the same time giving the impression that it isn't a very big deal by using euphemisms.

  When he does this, he has already introduced the public to the issue - on his terms - and prepares the way to categorize any future exposes on the issue by his critics as a vindictive, exaggerated attack bringing up an issue that he has already spoken about openly. He styles himself as the humble, honest man who publicly bared his past fault and is now being victimized by vindictive and slanderous critics, out to sensationalize the issue and destroy his character.
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  Getting married when you are spiritually out

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

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  2. relationships

  i met this amazing girl about 6years ago at my local congregation.

  i was 100% in back then.

  about 3years ago i woke up spiritually and kept it undercover till a few months ago.. this girl is still very in (but she doesnt really do the things a reaaal jw should do.

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  As long as she is still mentally in there is always the risk that she will one day become zealous and think she is helping you by outing you to the elders.
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  A possible new and disturbing dynamic of control in JW families.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that young children are very impressionable and love cartoons.

  lately, watchtower seems to be using caleb and sophia to indoctrinate young children into becoming zealous jw cultists.. what if this largely succeeds - at least while the children are still young?

  what effect could/would this have on family dynamics, specifically, the the parent-child relationship?.

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  Island Man

  We all know that young children are very impressionable and love cartoons. Lately, Watchtower seems to be using Caleb and Sophia to indoctrinate young children into becoming zealous JW cultists.

  What if this largely succeeds - at least while the children are still young? What effect could/would this have on family dynamics, specifically, the the parent-child relationship?

  Think of a child who has seen and internalized the infamous ice-cream video. What would she think about her parent and say to her parent who she sees buying an unnecessary item, say a new pair of shades, a watch, a bracelet, etc?

  "Mommy, that money should go to support the world-wide work! Isn't that more important?"

  Imagine JW households with parents who are put in the position of being psychologically pressured by their Watchtower indoctrinated children to be good JWs! Caleb and Sophia will make parenting more difficult for more moderate JW parents. Parents will feel pressured to live as good, model JWs at home to meet the expectations created in the minds of their children who watch Caleb and Sophia.